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	<title>Comments on: What&#039;s in a name?</title>
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		<title>By: Dancing into the Future</title>
		<link>http://pentacleblogs.org/movetheframe/2007/09/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Dancing into the Future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;In Art and Business Fluidity Trumps Clarity&lt;/strong&gt;

In my beginner modern dance class last night at the 92nd Street Y, my teacher Susan Cherniak made the point during one of the exercises that she wasn&#039;t interested in our arriving at the right point in sync with the...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>In Art and Business Fluidity Trumps Clarity</strong></p>
<p>In my beginner modern dance class last night at the 92nd Street Y, my teacher Susan Cherniak made the point during one of the exercises that she wasn&#8217;t interested in our arriving at the right point in sync with the&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: matt gough</title>
		<link>http://pentacleblogs.org/movetheframe/2007/09/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>matt gough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure, i should have been a little clearer - &lt;a href=&quot;http://quodlibet.tumblr.com/post/13515677&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://quodlibet.tumblr.com/post/13515677&lt;/a&gt;
it&#039;s good to have these conversations in a wider sphere, rather than behind the closed doors of conferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure, i should have been a little clearer &#8211; <a href="http://quodlibet.tumblr.com/post/13515677" rel="nofollow">http://quodlibet.tumblr.com/post/13515677</a><br />
it&#8217;s good to have these conversations in a wider sphere, rather than behind the closed doors of conferences.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Brady Nuse</title>
		<link>http://pentacleblogs.org/movetheframe/2007/09/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Brady Nuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, I agree with you that this area as a whole has already splintered into various subsets. However, I disagree that the subsets should be defined as you describe by their aesthetic approaches and technical formats. To me it&#039;s not obvious how cinedance is different from videodance, screendance, or any of the other names we&#039;ve listed. To separate them based on technical formats and qualitative budgets is not intuitive or helpful in thinking about the form. That sounds like a grading system to me.

I respect your choice of screendance as a name. I think it does include everything that could make up this art form, but it just sounds kind of dry and boring to me. From a marketing perspective, I&#039;m not sold on it, but I do think it works as a accurate description. In terms of subdividing the form I think this should be based on style and content like other film genres. Everyone understands what a Western is or an Action film. I think the average person would distinguish between Lloyd Newson&#039;s “Cost of Living” and Edouard Lock&#039;s “Amelia.” According to your and Karen&#039;s categorizations they are both cinedances, but content wise and stylistically they are very very different. I think they should live in different genre categories, but what to call them I don&#039;t know.  Maybe we should look to the music industry for clues, they have no shortage of new categories being made up all the time, usually coined by fans. To look at genres in music is to examine the Smith Family Tree. Here&#039;s an example of one thread: Rock - Hard Rock - Heavy Metal - Hair bands.  It goes on and on... And the names are fantastic too... Grind Core, Speed Metal, Punk, New Wave... I want to see videodance get juicy like that. I guess that requires some more sex, drugs, and rock &#039;n&#039; roll though...

Matt, I look forward to reading more of your thoughts about the clear definitions of these forms. Thanks also for inaugurating my blog with its first comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I agree with you that this area as a whole has already splintered into various subsets. However, I disagree that the subsets should be defined as you describe by their aesthetic approaches and technical formats. To me it&#8217;s not obvious how cinedance is different from videodance, screendance, or any of the other names we&#8217;ve listed. To separate them based on technical formats and qualitative budgets is not intuitive or helpful in thinking about the form. That sounds like a grading system to me.</p>
<p>I respect your choice of screendance as a name. I think it does include everything that could make up this art form, but it just sounds kind of dry and boring to me. From a marketing perspective, I&#8217;m not sold on it, but I do think it works as a accurate description. In terms of subdividing the form I think this should be based on style and content like other film genres. Everyone understands what a Western is or an Action film. I think the average person would distinguish between Lloyd Newson&#8217;s “Cost of Living” and Edouard Lock&#8217;s “Amelia.” According to your and Karen&#8217;s categorizations they are both cinedances, but content wise and stylistically they are very very different. I think they should live in different genre categories, but what to call them I don&#8217;t know.  Maybe we should look to the music industry for clues, they have no shortage of new categories being made up all the time, usually coined by fans. To look at genres in music is to examine the Smith Family Tree. Here&#8217;s an example of one thread: Rock &#8211; Hard Rock &#8211; Heavy Metal &#8211; Hair bands.  It goes on and on&#8230; And the names are fantastic too&#8230; Grind Core, Speed Metal, Punk, New Wave&#8230; I want to see videodance get juicy like that. I guess that requires some more sex, drugs, and rock &#8216;n&#8217; roll though&#8230;</p>
<p>Matt, I look forward to reading more of your thoughts about the clear definitions of these forms. Thanks also for inaugurating my blog with its first comment!</p>
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		<title>By: matt gough</title>
		<link>http://pentacleblogs.org/movetheframe/2007/09/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>matt gough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello anna, i wrote a short response @ &lt;a href=&quot;http://quodlibet.tumblr.com/post/13500087&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://quodlibet.tumblr.com/post/13500087&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello anna, i wrote a short response @ <a href="http://quodlibet.tumblr.com/post/13500087" rel="nofollow">http://quodlibet.tumblr.com/post/13500087</a></p>
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